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‘Hypocritical’: Metis Nation of Ontario responds to David Chartrand’s latest attack

In the last episode of Nation to Nation, MMF President David Chartrand said the Metis Nation of Ontario is using trickery to steal Metis identity.

This episode the MNO responds to his attack.

And it all has to do with the historic Powley Supreme Court decision.

Originally aired November 26, 2020

Tri-council says it’s not leaving Metis National Council, but stalemate continues

The Metis National Council has been divided for more than a year.

Now news of Alberta, Saskatchewan and Ontario forming a Tri-Council.

But what does it mean to MNC VP David Chartrand?

He doesn’t hold any punches.

That’s on this episode of Nation to Nation.

Originally aired November 19, 2020

‘60s Scoop survivor recalls being ‘Today’s Child’ in newspaper on historic day

There’s a new healing foundation for ‘60s Scoop survivors.

The opening ceremony is happening today.

But first a reminder of how many Indigenous children were scooped.

Pictures in newspapers under the section: Today’s Child.

That’s on this episode of Nation to Nation.

Originally aired November 12, 2020

Ordinary decent reporter: Christopher Curtis explains why he launched The Rover

Journalist Christopher Curtis turned some heads when he quit his job at the Montreal Gazette.

But Curtis had a plan.

It includes telling in-depth stories about Indigenous people – the right way.

That’s on this episode of Nation to Nation.

Originally aired November 5, 2020

From residential school to Saskatchewan legislature: Meet Betty Nippi-Albright

We have a common theme this episode of Nation to Nation.


Find out how one woman overcame it and the fight one group still has.

But they all have a new ally in Ottawa.

Originally aired October 29, 2020

From residential school to Saskatchewan legislature: Meet Betty Nippi-Albright

We have a common theme this episode of Nation to Nation.


Find out how one woman overcame it and the fight one group still has.

But they all have a new ally in Ottawa.

Originally aired October 29, 2020

NDP’s Singh tells Trudeau: I won’t do your dirty work and trigger an election

Why take a knee if you won’t take a stand?

That’s Jagmeet Singh’s message to Justin Trudeau.

And, no, the NDP won’t be used as a prop to spark an election.

It’s all part of a wide-ranging interview on this episode of Nation to Nation.

Originally aired October 22, 2020

Second wave of COVID-19 crashing into several First Nations communities

The number of COVID-19 outbreaks is increasing on-reserve across Canada.

One First Nation has set-up a checkpoint to enforce non-essential travel ban to the northern Manitoba.

But an NDP MP says the Manitoba government has done little to help.

That’s on this episode of Nation to Nation.

Originally aired October 15, 2020

Dear non-Mi’kmaw fishers: Mi’kmaq in Nova Scotia have an inherent right to fish, you do not

The Mi’kmaq are the only people with an inherent right to fish in Nova Scotia.

It’s privilege for everyone else.

The season premiere of Nation to Nation looks into the racism that Mi’kmaw fishers are facing – on and off the water.

Originally aired October 8, 2020

Past Episodes

A wide-ranging interview with Marc Miller on making policy in crisis and what’s to come

Ottawa can spend billions in a pandemic, so when will it pay First Nations children what they’re owed for being in care?

Minister Marc Miller says that will still take several months.

Hear the full interview the on the season finale of Nation to Nation.

Originally aired May 28, 2020

MP Mumilaaq Qaqqaq hopes pandemic has changed what public views as essential

NDP MP Mumilaaq Qaqqaq says the novel coronavirus pandemic has proven to everyone that jobs typically viewed as less essential than others before the pandemic are deserving of a living wage.

She said the pandemic has also put a spotlight on other gaps.

In this episode of Nation to Nation, we also spoke to Cindy Blackstock and where she gets some of her inspiration to fight for First Nations children.

Originally aired May 21, 2020

Even during the pandemic, Canada is fighting these residential school survivors in court

Are there more cases of coronavirus on-reserve than Canada says?

A new report from Yellowhead Institute says yes.

Canada responds to that report on this episode of Nation to Nation.

Originally aired May 14, 2020

‘Dumping ground’: Young people forced to live in seniors’ homes says lawyer

There were 118 people under the age of 30 in long-term care homes across Ontario as of December 31.

Forty-two of them were between the ages of 18-20.

In comparison, there were more than 74,000 above 60 years old.

So how did these homes, geared for geriatric care, also become a place for young adults?

That and more in this episode of Nation to Nation.

Originally aired May 7, 2020

First Nations several weeks away from likely knowing when things may return to normal

‘Namgis First Nation recently lost a member to COVID-19.

The community is on Alert Bay island in British Columbia that has 26 confirmed cases.

A Cree doctor explains how things have gone.

That and more on this episode of Nation to Nation.

Originally aired April 30, 2020

Police shootings, child welfare cuts and waiting for COVID-19 test kits

Three Indigenous people were killed by Winnipeg police in 10 days.

It’s sparked calls for an Indigenous police oversight board.

Grand Chief Jerry Daniels explains how it could work.

That and more on this episode of Nation to Nation.

Originally aired April 23, 2020

Prison watchdog investigating complaint of guards not wearing masks at Sask Pen

This prisoner advocate says she keeps hearing from inmates across the country about COVID-19.

In particular, Saskatchewan Penitentiary.

Sherri Maier forwarded the complaints to Canada’s prison watchdog.

That’s on this episode of Nation to Nation.

Originally aired April 16, 2020

‘Doing everything possible’: Indigenous Services defends response to pandemic in communities

Three perspectives on COVID-19.

Dr. Tom Wong says Indigenous services is doing what it can.

In the united states Patty Talahongva is dismayed at its spread.

And NDP MP Leah Gazan is staying in touch online.

Originally aired April 9, 2020

Philpott says NAN communities prepared but will be tested as virus confirmed in Sioux Lookout

Dr. Jane Philpott has returned to the hospital where she worked for 17 years before getting into politics helping out during the COVID-19 pandemic.

Philpott is also assisting First Nations in northern Ontario as part of a “task team” organized by Nishnawbe Aski Nation in response to the pandemic.

She said many communities were quick to restrict access and curtail large gatherings.

But the virus is getting close.

Originally aired April 2, 2020

‘Can’t take any risks’: Kahnawake trying to find COVID-19 source that infected 5 people

With leaders preaching across the country for Indigenous people to take the COVID-19 pandemic serious, one nation in Quebec has five confirmed cases but can’t pinpoint the source.

That means Kahnawake’s numbers could go up said Lloyd Phillips, commissioner of public safety for the Mohawk Council of Kahnawake.

Perry Bellegarde, national chief of the Assembly of First Nations, said people can’t take any risks and need to treat this virus seriously.

Originally aired March 26, 2020

‘Race against the clock’ to protect vulnerable First Nations from COVID-19

COVID-19 is known to be more harmful to the elderly and people that are immunocompromised and have chronic illnesses, which is more prevalent on-reserve.

“It’s a race against the clock,” said NDP MP Charlie Angus of protecting vulnerable First Nations, particularly in his riding of Timmins-James Bay that includes Attawapiskat.

The Trudeau government announced billions in emergency funding Wednesday to help fight the COVID-19 pandemic, including $305 million for Indigenous communities.

Originally aired March 19, 2020

A closer look at the division within Metis Nation

There is a growing rift between the provincial organizations that make up the Metis National Council (MNC).

At issue is the suspension of the Metis Nation of Ontario (MNO) from the MNC over its recognition of six historical communities.

Manitoba Metis Federation President David Chartrand, and also MNC vice-president, says the communities do not belong under the Metis umbrella.

But the president MNO, Margaret Froh, disagrees.

Originally aired March 12, 2020

‘Still stuck’: Canada knows path to reconciliation but not how to walk it

Alex Neve says 20 years ago missing and murdered Indigenous women wasn’t on the radar of politicians.

Negotiations over the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous People (UNDRIP) was still in deadlock.

The Truth and Reconciliation Commission was a few years away.

Now as Neve plans to step-down in June as the secretary-general of Amnesty International Canada he’s seen all these things happen.

But something is still missing.

Originally aired March 5, 2020

No compensation for parents of First Nations children that died in care, Justice lawyer tells tribunal

Canada doesn’t believe the parents of First Nations children that died in the on-reserve child welfare system should be compensated through Canadian Human Rights Tribunal.

That’s what a lawyer for the Justice department filed at the tribunal last Friday as all parties submitted their proposals on how these children should be compensated for being taken from their home and put in a purposely underfunded program.

That and more on this episode of Nation to Nation.

Originally aired February 27, 2020

Justin Trudeau has to meet with Wet’suwet’en hereditary chiefs: MP Leah Gazan

The RCMP has made a conditional offer to leave the Wet’suwet’en traditional territory as long as the road through it is kept clear, presumably for workers to continue building a pipeline.

Public Safety Minister Bill Blair made the announcement Thursday mornings saying RCMP will set up in a town close by and then called for all the rail blockades and protests to end.

But leaving the territory was just one of the demands by hereditary chiefs.

That and more on this episode of APTN Nation to Nation.

Originally aired February 20, 2020

Echoes of Idle No More: Demonstrations halt parts of Canada in support of Wet’suwet’en

It seems everywhere you turn today there is a demonstration in the streets or at railways and even in government office buildings.

If that sounds familiar that’s because it is.

Just seven years ago Idle No More did much of the same in response.

Today, the disrespect shown to traditional Wet’suwet’en law by the approval of a natural gas pipeline through its territory and the RCMP used as enforcers to remove people standing in its way has triggered a similar reaction to Idle No More.

Originally aired February 13, 2020

Jody Wilson-Raybould has ‘unfinished’ business with Indigenous rights framework

The Trudeau government could have created a recognition of Indigenous rights framework in its previous term says its former justice minister.

She also believes she could have written it.

That space is what’s needed to allow Indigenous nations, said Wilson-Raybould, to have the ability to rebuild and to reconcile their traditional systems in to the modern world, which will happen at their own pace.

Originally aired February 6, 2020

How many First Nations kids are in care? Canada is trying to figure that out now

No one can say today exactly how many First Nations children are in the on-reserve child welfare system across Canada.
In fact, no one has ever been able to say.

It’s never been tracked properly by the federal government, which it now says it’s looking to do.

That and more in this episode of APTN Nation to Nation.

Originally aired January 30, 2020

‘Child welfare to prison pipeline’ feeding rising Indigenous incarceration rates

On this episode of Nation to Nation: We recently heard that Indigenous inmates now make up 30 per cent of everyone in federal prisons, but what about provincial jails.
Ontario’s Human Rights Commissioner says the conditions there are dehumanizing.

As well, the co-host of Ottawa’s Inuktitut-language radio station is in studio.

In addition, more from Manitoba Metis Federation President David Chartrand on the crisis in the metis national council.

Originally aired January 23, 2020

Traditional vs. Indian Act: Perry Bellegarde explains where he sits on Wet’suwet’en

On this episode of Nation to Nation: The Wet’suwet’en hereditary chiefs don’t just oppose a pipeline through their traditional territory because of the environment and climate change.

Even if it looks that way to some.

At the root of it they’re challenging the system that allowed for the approval of Coastal GasLink’s 670-kilometre pipeline in the first place by pitting traditional ways, or laws, against the Indian Act and the chiefs and councils that are borne from the federal legislation.

Originally aired January 16, 2020

Stopping the Ripple: First Nations man ends vicious cycle of residential schools

On this episode of Nation to Nation: There’s a story Randy Kakegamick tells about the neglect he faced as a child.

It was late one night and his mom was out so he took off wandering the streets of Ottawa.

A drunk man chased him into an alley and attacked him thinking his bag of white cookies was cocaine.

He was eight-years-old. The Ojibway-Cree man never stopped running until about three years ago.

He was in jail, a familiar place for most of his adult life.

Originally aired January 9, 2020

Jody Wilson-Raybould stands on a foundation of integrity: Algonquin Elder

Much ink has spilled on social media about the fiasco involving which office Jody Wilson-Raybould should occupy in Ottawa as a Member of Parliament.

Nation to Nation has a single, and final, thought on this.

Originally aired December 19, 2019

Insider offers glimpse into new trade agreement and what it means for Indigenous people

On this episode of Nation to Nation: Canada ended up with the shield but not the sword for Indigenous peoples in the new trade agreement that was officially signed in Mexico earlier this week.

That’s how Wayne Garnons-Williams described the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement.

The sword was a three-part Indigenous chapter: A recognition that Indigenous peoples are original traders, a breakdown of who the inter-tribal traders are and a committee to enforce it.

Originally aired December 12, 2019

Government ‘repeat offender’ when it comes to First Nations kids

On this episode of Nation to Nation: The new Indigenous services minister was introduced to the Assembly of First Nations (AFN) this week.

And Marc Miller promised that Canada would compensate children in care in due course.

But Cindy Blackstock, who continues to fight the Liberals before the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal, still doesn’t trust the government’s track record.

Originally aired December 5, 2019

UNDRIP bill becomes law in B.C. after it fails federally

On this episode of Nation to Nation: British Columbia became the first jurisdiction in Canada to formally enshrine the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples (UNDRIP) into law.

The province’s Lieutenant Governor Janet Austin gave the bill royal assent in a ceremony Thursday morning in Victoria.

Indigenous leaders were ecstatic about the event.

Originally aired November 28, 2019

Will Trudeau’s cabinet cut the upcoming minority session of Parliament?

On this episode: The Nation to Nation panel of political experts examine Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s new cabinet going into the minority session of Parliament.

Alberta’s Metis Settlements General Council is in Ottawa.

It represents the only Metis communities that hold land collectively but they have a way to go to get more federal recognition.

Originally aired November 21, 2019

Cree mother continues to ‘languish’ in Saskatoon’s federal psychiatric facility

On this episode of APTN Nation to Nation: Marlene Carter is a Cree woman from the Onion Lake First Nation in Saskatchewan and she’s been incarcerated since 2009.

A lot of that time has been spent in restraints – sometimes months at a time at Saskatoon’s Regional Psychiatric Centre (RPC).

A lifetime before that, the mother of three boys was sexually and physically abused as a child.

But, today no one appears to know what to do with her.

Originally aired November 14, 2019

Indigenous people on frontlines of deadly fight for the Amazon and their homes

On this episode of APTN Nation To Nation: Forest defender Paulo Paulino Guajajara was shot dead several days ago by suspected illegal loggers in what has pitted Indigenous people against just about everyone trying to make a buck in the Brazilian Amazon.

But Guajajara’s death shows protecting their territory can come at the highest price as he was shot in the face and his cousin wounded during an “ambush” in the Araribóia Indigenous territory of the Amazon.

It’s essentially put Indigenous people on the frontlines in this deadly fight.

Originally aired November 7, 2019

Painting captures 200-year curse of Parliament Hill involving murdered Algonquin girl

On this episode of APTN Nation To Nation: Every painting tells a story and that’s certainly true of a particular one done by Algonquin artist Janet Kaponicin.
It tells the story of a curse placed nearly 200 years ago on the land of what later became Canada’s seat of government.

Kaponicin tells a story that has been handed down through seven generations of women about a group of Algonquin camped near where the Rideau canal now empties into the Ottawa River.

Originally aired October 31, 2019

NDP perfectly placed to push Indigenous rights when Trudeau doesn’t: Newly elected MP

On this episode of APTN Nation To Nation: The NDP may have finished fourth in the federal election last Monday but is perfectly placed to push for Indigenous rights when the prime minister inevitably comes looking for a deal to prop up the minority Parliament says Leah Gazan.

Gazan was elected in Winnipeg Centre defeating the Liberal incumbent, Robert Falcon-Ouellette, and firmly believes the NDP are the big winners, at least for Indigenous people.

Originally aired October 24, 2019

With the federal election days away does Trudeau deserve another 4 years?

On this episode of APTN Nation To Nation: Justin Trudeau and the Liberals had the most progressive mandate when it came to Indigenous people than any government before them.

But did Trudeau accomplish enough in his four years as prime minister to deserve votes from Indigenous people when the polls open Monday?

Or does he deserve to be kicked out of office?

Originally aired October 17, 2019

Challenging human rights tribunal compensation order ‘incomprehensible’: Jane Philpott

On the season premiere of APTN Nation To Nation: We will be looking at the disgraceful state of Indigenous child welfare, especially in Ontario where 102 deaths have occurred over the past five years.

Cindy Blackstock wonders why there has been little said about it during an election campaign.

A Ryerson professor says chronic underfunding is allowing children to die.

And we’ll hear heartbreaking stories from two kids caught up in the system.

Originally aired October 10, 2019