Indigenous nurse and birth worker advocates for more access to traditional support

‘Birth should be sacred,’ Lucy Barney says. ‘But right now it’s medical and we need more traditional midwives.’

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Brio, T’kemlups te Secwépemc/ Syilx. Photo Credit: Jodie Lemke Photography


Sage Thomas recalls the first birth she witnessed as a doula in training, using the traditional ways of her people.

“When I walked into the room, they had some juniper burning on the stove and they had the lights low and it was just really quiet and calm,” she said.

This is what birth can look like she told IndigiNews, when it’s supported with culture and traditional knowledge.

Thomas speaks of the importance, and necessity of reclaiming Indigenous birth practices.

“I went and stood beside her and put my hand on her shoulder,” Thomas said.

Doula Sage Thomas supporting a birth in the hospital. Photo Credit: Sage Birth Services.

“She just had this look of relief. She just sunk more into the bed like, it’s somebody I know, and I trust, that I can relate to.”

Thomas is an Indigenous birth worker.

She is a professionally trained doula, which means she provides emotional, physical and informational support during pregnancy, birth, and in postpartum.

In Thomas’ case, she also provides prenatal support which includes pregnancy education and birth planning.

She works in her traditional unceded territory of Tk’emlúps te Secwépemc (Kamloops, B.C.).  She is also a mother, artist, and student.

Thomas is one of four panelists sharing their experiences in a webinar on Nov. 16 called Reclaiming and Revitalizing Traditional Approaches to Birthing.

Lucy Barney, Tetqet nurse and cultural advisor, is another speaker in the webinar.

Barney works at Perinatal Services BC and with the First Nation Health Authority nursing department.

“Because everything is sacred, birth should be sacred,” Barney said. “But right now it’s medical and we need more traditional midwives.

“They were respected for the ability to bring new life into the world.”

Birthing has become medicalized 

Barney says residential schools removed learning about birth as a natural process.

She also speaks of other contributing factors: the ‘60s Scoop, Indian hospitals, and other systems built to remove people from their Indigenous ways of beings.

“Now birthing has become medicalized,” says Barney. “Women in the past were respected as the foundation, the backbone of our community…  and were respected as such.

“Also, they were respected for the ability to bring new life into the world.”

In the healthcare system, medicalized birth means a change from pregnant people being  supported at home to hospital births. In a hospital environment there is a  reliance on medical supports such as forceps, epidurals, caesarean sections says Barney.

She has a clear idea of what needs to change.

“Healthcare doesn’t need to be something that you go in… and you’re finished in 10 minutes.” she explains. “It takes time to build a relationship with their client, listen to their story.

“Take that time to fully understand your client, then make sure they understand what you’re providing them. That’s informed consent. Many of our women have had C-sections not knowing why they had a C-section.”

Thomas agrees there is a need for Indigenization of birthing ways.

“An institutionalized birth,” she says. “We’re set by a certain structure, and policy really limits access to support families can receive.”

She gives examples such as smudging in the birthing room, and “having medicines in your birth or possibly having any singing.”

Thomas explains the number of family members in attendance will be different than a traditional birth.

“There’s going to be aunties there and grandmas and cousins and sister, uncles leaving,” she says.

While public health nurses understand the benefits of young women in care having a doula, or an Indigenous advocate with them at the hospital, hurdles exist.

“These organizations that are essentially managing these young people in care, don’t know the benefit of that either,” she says.

“Not understanding like harm that can be done or the systemic racism that happens in the hospital.”

Thomas says she supports a lot of low-income high-risk young families.

“I’m a visibly young Indigenous woman as a doula. So for me to go in and support these young women,” Thomas says, adding they can “look at me as their cousin or their sister or their auntie. Not like this random person that works for some organization that doesn’t really care about them.”

Thomas says it is critical that young Indigenous moms receive all the recommended perinatal care, too.

“These are the ones that are at most high risk of apprehension, high risk of infant mortalities.”

Indigenous birth workers are at the forefront in seeing how communities and culture are impacted by the removal, or inclusion of birthing ways.

The bridge to reclaiming 

Sage Thomas with son Brio. Photo Credit: Michelle Regner.

Thomas found her place in birth work through her own journey in becoming a mother.

Once I understood what midwives were… then I realized that it was a part of our everyday society as Indigenous people prior to colonization.”

Thomas describes how one tradition has some hospitals rethinking their policy to accommodate culture.

“One thing that I was taught was not to do a first bath right away, and to incorporate some cedar tea into the baby’s bath.”

Maternity wards do have first baths at hospital as a policy, and Thomas has seen some opening up around the bath.

“Since I’ve been doing this work, certain hospitals I know have changed their policy a few times,” she says. “They wait, or you can even ask not to do that.”

A doula focuses on the needs of the mother, whether that is physical, emotional or mental. Working as a team with medically trained midwives or doctors, they support the mother. During the birth process, midwives focus on delivering a healthy baby.

There are barriers for Indigenous people entering this field, including the financial barriers associated with training, certification, Thomas explains. “And then not everyone has access to be able to travel to training.

“And then you also come with barriers of being able to set up your business and become visible.”

This is before birth workers even begin to outreach Indigenous communities to offer their support services.

Barney emphasizes the need for more Indigenous practitioners in all health care roles.

Indigenous perspectives are important to create inclusion in the healthcare system, she says.

“When we were allowed to practice our culture, our beliefs and values and our practices… that’s what sustained us.”

Revitalizing old ways creates hope

Spontaneous singing has happened at births Thomas has been involved in, and she circles back to the memory of the first birth she attended as doula.

“The dad was singing when the baby was born,” she says, “They only wanted to speak their language to the baby and they ended up having a naming ceremony.”

Doulas rely on creating relationships with the families they support, and this is a key component of real community. When this connection is made using an Indigenous knowledge as a lens, everyone is learning and reconnecting to culture Thomas says.

“I always ask, ‘do you have any plans for the placenta? Is this something you want to take home?’ Some people aren’t aware of this tradition,”

“And so I’m able to give them that teaching… this is what we do in my culture, or this is what we do locally here.”

Thomas invites the people she’s working with to “reach out to some of your elders, and ask what they do with the placenta, because you are able to take it home.”

Saving the umbilical cord and burying the placenta is a tradition that Thomas practices.

Doula Sage Thomas and daughter Rylee, T’kemlups te Secwépemc/ Syilx. Photo Credit: Tyne Driemel Harquail.

It was important to Thomas for her daughter to see birth as a normal part of their community, with family and friends.

“I wanted her to be there, like as long as she was comfortable being there just cause for me…It doesn’t have to be this big, scary medical thing,” she says.

“I had an Indigenous midwife, Evelyn George, who is also my close friend… so it wasn’t some strange medical person coming into the house, it was ‘Auntie’s here to help mom have the baby’.

Thomas has a hope for families to have culturally safe care.

“My vision is to go into midwifery and then come back to my home community and have a space that is specific to Indigenous families. So that all families that are traveling in can have a space that they can stay and birth, and, and be able to utilize our medicines and our food.”

For Thomas, reclaiming traditional birth ways is a step in sovereignty.

“Indigenous midwifery and birth work is my act of resistance. Is my fight of decolonizing. Is my hope in reclamation.”

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