14 thoughts on “No furniture, no after care at inquiry former employee says”
As a mother of a daughter that was missing then later found,murdered, I can speak to the fact that Morene did earn my respect because she did not give up after I was in crisis. Morene did unit leave me hanging, nor pass the buck and send me off to someone else. Two days this lady stayed on the phone,both times to ensure I was feeling ok
Yes,I yelled, cried,but I was angry. I feel let down because Morene has been there for us,and now we have to start all over again. The trust issue is a huge one,Morene earned mine! The firing is unfair to the process, and this lady has been nothing but truthful.
I’m sorry an unqualified individual counselled you when you were in crisis.
Talk 4 Healing is a good resource with trained staff: 1 855 554 HEAL
As a mother of a daughter that was missing then later found,murdered, I can speak to the fact that Morene did earn my respect because she did not give up after I was in crisis. Morene did unit leave me hanging, nor pass the buck and send me off to someone else. Two days this lady stayed on the phone,both times to ensure I was feeling ok
Yes,I yelled, cried,but I was angry. I feel let down because Morene has been there for us,and now we have to start all over again. The trust issue is a huge one,Morene earned mine! The firing is unfair to the process, and this lady has been nothing but truthful.
I’m sorry an unqualified individual counselled you when you were in crisis.
Talk 4 Healing is a good resource with trained staff: 1 855 554 HEAL
I know in Thunder Bay the Ontario Native Women’s Association received nearly a million dollars to provide “support” to families; I would imagine the government funded other groups in different locations to deliver these services? As I suspected, a quick search shows the federal government provided millions of $ support to various FN organizations in Manitoba http://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/fund-fina/cj-jp/fund-fond/mmiw-fada/info.html
Gabriel would not be able to refer individuals for professional help if she isn’t a social worker. I am troubled by her admitting she was on the telephone with families, whom she describes experiencing “grief” for hours. That is completely inappropriate and beyond the scope of her position. It makes me wonder why she was fired from her position; appears she doesn’t understand what a community liason officer does.
She sent commissioners a document outlining 17 ways she believes they could improve? If anyone did this to the CEO of their organization they would be fired for insubordination as well.
I just tried to contact all 15 numbers of the FN organisations listed on that website. Guess what only TWO people answered, and one territory does not have a number. How would someone in a crisis be able to garner any support with a system as such. it’s no wonder they called her directly, it was probably the only number provided to them and, at least she answered.
Also, providing follow-ups by telephone is part of the procedure at the NI, so she’s only admitting to doing her job.
Your last statement is not true, had she been operating within a healthy environment, which clearly is not the case, the Commissioners would honour her suggestions and speak with her about her concerns, She is a family member/survivor afterall.
The link you provide has nothing to do with the issues raised in this article. That link is about helping families access information about their missing or murdered loved one–accessing police files & investigation info, child welfare, social services or other organizations that may have info on the case & investigation. NOTHING to do with support, grief counselling or any followup for grieving & distraught family members.
It appears to me that employees working directly with the families on followup were not provided sufficient guidance or resources to actually help the families. I say this because the article clearly states it. But then when employees made suggestions to fix problems they encountered, they were not listened to by their superiors. Which means the terrible situation continued, & the families suffered. This is explained in detail in the article.
Also, I disagree that Gabriel was out of line emailing recommendations–many of which were from families–to the commissioners. I would argue that’s actually her job–to ensure that the Inquiry is as responsive to families as it claims it wants to be. “Trauma-centred” means listening to survivors & loved ones of missing & murdered women. Which is exactly what Gabriel was trying to do, & which seems, inexplicably, to have resulting in her being fired.
The link I provided says that the organizations will work with the families to find them support. If you’re too lazy to do your own work and read an article I’m certainly not going to do it for you. Are you a white woman by any chance?
If those 15 organizations and no one answered then THOSE organizations are to blame. They received MILLIONS of dollars to provide support. If millions of dollars doesn’t constitute “adequate support” then those organizations should NOT be operating. Despicable.
If she didn’t get fired for insubordination I wonder what she did get fired for. There are many laws in this country and you must know that someone can’t be fired without just cause.
Providing after support is the procedure at the NI? Then why is she complaining that there was no support if that was part of her job? Why complain about having counsel families if that was her job (it’s not by the way. She is not a social worker, and she should be investigated for counselling families)
I don’t think you understand what trauma-centered work entails.
I know in Thunder Bay the Ontario Native Women’s Association received nearly a million dollars to provide “support” to families; I would imagine the government funded other groups in different locations to deliver these services? As I suspected, a quick search shows the federal government provided millions of $ support to various FN organizations in Manitoba http://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/fund-fina/cj-jp/fund-fond/mmiw-fada/info.html
Gabriel would not be able to refer individuals for professional help if she isn’t a social worker. I am troubled by her admitting she was on the telephone with families, whom she describes experiencing “grief” for hours. That is completely inappropriate and beyond the scope of her position. It makes me wonder why she was fired from her position; appears she doesn’t understand what a community liason officer does.
She sent commissioners a document outlining 17 ways she believes they could improve? If anyone did this to the CEO of their organization they would be fired for insubordination as well.
I just tried to contact all 15 numbers of the FN organisations listed on that website. Guess what only TWO people answered, and one territory does not have a number. How would someone in a crisis be able to garner any support with a system as such. it’s no wonder they called her directly, it was probably the only number provided to them and, at least she answered.
Also, providing follow-ups by telephone is part of the procedure at the NI, so she’s only admitting to doing her job.
Your last statement is not true, had she been operating within a healthy environment, which clearly is not the case, the Commissioners would honour her suggestions and speak with her about her concerns, She is a family member/survivor afterall.
The link you provide has nothing to do with the issues raised in this article. That link is about helping families access information about their missing or murdered loved one–accessing police files & investigation info, child welfare, social services or other organizations that may have info on the case & investigation. NOTHING to do with support, grief counselling or any followup for grieving & distraught family members.
It appears to me that employees working directly with the families on followup were not provided sufficient guidance or resources to actually help the families. I say this because the article clearly states it. But then when employees made suggestions to fix problems they encountered, they were not listened to by their superiors. Which means the terrible situation continued, & the families suffered. This is explained in detail in the article.
Also, I disagree that Gabriel was out of line emailing recommendations–many of which were from families–to the commissioners. I would argue that’s actually her job–to ensure that the Inquiry is as responsive to families as it claims it wants to be. “Trauma-centred” means listening to survivors & loved ones of missing & murdered women. Which is exactly what Gabriel was trying to do, & which seems, inexplicably, to have resulting in her being fired.
The link I provided says that the organizations will work with the families to find them support. If you’re too lazy to do your own work and read an article I’m certainly not going to do it for you. Are you a white woman by any chance?
If those 15 organizations and no one answered then THOSE organizations are to blame. They received MILLIONS of dollars to provide support. If millions of dollars doesn’t constitute “adequate support” then those organizations should NOT be operating. Despicable.
If she didn’t get fired for insubordination I wonder what she did get fired for. There are many laws in this country and you must know that someone can’t be fired without just cause.
Providing after support is the procedure at the NI? Then why is she complaining that there was no support if that was part of her job? Why complain about having counsel families if that was her job (it’s not by the way. She is not a social worker, and she should be investigated for counselling families)
I don’t think you understand what trauma-centered work entails.
As a mother of a daughter that was missing then later found,murdered, I can speak to the fact that Morene did earn my respect because she did not give up after I was in crisis. Morene did unit leave me hanging, nor pass the buck and send me off to someone else. Two days this lady stayed on the phone,both times to ensure I was feeling ok
Yes,I yelled, cried,but I was angry. I feel let down because Morene has been there for us,and now we have to start all over again. The trust issue is a huge one,Morene earned mine! The firing is unfair to the process, and this lady has been nothing but truthful.
I’m sorry an unqualified individual counselled you when you were in crisis.
Talk 4 Healing is a good resource with trained staff: 1 855 554 HEAL
As a mother of a daughter that was missing then later found,murdered, I can speak to the fact that Morene did earn my respect because she did not give up after I was in crisis. Morene did unit leave me hanging, nor pass the buck and send me off to someone else. Two days this lady stayed on the phone,both times to ensure I was feeling ok
Yes,I yelled, cried,but I was angry. I feel let down because Morene has been there for us,and now we have to start all over again. The trust issue is a huge one,Morene earned mine! The firing is unfair to the process, and this lady has been nothing but truthful.
I’m sorry an unqualified individual counselled you when you were in crisis.
Talk 4 Healing is a good resource with trained staff: 1 855 554 HEAL
I know in Thunder Bay the Ontario Native Women’s Association received nearly a million dollars to provide “support” to families; I would imagine the government funded other groups in different locations to deliver these services? As I suspected, a quick search shows the federal government provided millions of $ support to various FN organizations in Manitoba http://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/fund-fina/cj-jp/fund-fond/mmiw-fada/info.html
Gabriel would not be able to refer individuals for professional help if she isn’t a social worker. I am troubled by her admitting she was on the telephone with families, whom she describes experiencing “grief” for hours. That is completely inappropriate and beyond the scope of her position. It makes me wonder why she was fired from her position; appears she doesn’t understand what a community liason officer does.
She sent commissioners a document outlining 17 ways she believes they could improve? If anyone did this to the CEO of their organization they would be fired for insubordination as well.
I just tried to contact all 15 numbers of the FN organisations listed on that website. Guess what only TWO people answered, and one territory does not have a number. How would someone in a crisis be able to garner any support with a system as such. it’s no wonder they called her directly, it was probably the only number provided to them and, at least she answered.
Also, providing follow-ups by telephone is part of the procedure at the NI, so she’s only admitting to doing her job.
Your last statement is not true, had she been operating within a healthy environment, which clearly is not the case, the Commissioners would honour her suggestions and speak with her about her concerns, She is a family member/survivor afterall.
The link you provide has nothing to do with the issues raised in this article. That link is about helping families access information about their missing or murdered loved one–accessing police files & investigation info, child welfare, social services or other organizations that may have info on the case & investigation. NOTHING to do with support, grief counselling or any followup for grieving & distraught family members.
It appears to me that employees working directly with the families on followup were not provided sufficient guidance or resources to actually help the families. I say this because the article clearly states it. But then when employees made suggestions to fix problems they encountered, they were not listened to by their superiors. Which means the terrible situation continued, & the families suffered. This is explained in detail in the article.
Also, I disagree that Gabriel was out of line emailing recommendations–many of which were from families–to the commissioners. I would argue that’s actually her job–to ensure that the Inquiry is as responsive to families as it claims it wants to be. “Trauma-centred” means listening to survivors & loved ones of missing & murdered women. Which is exactly what Gabriel was trying to do, & which seems, inexplicably, to have resulting in her being fired.
The link I provided says that the organizations will work with the families to find them support. If you’re too lazy to do your own work and read an article I’m certainly not going to do it for you. Are you a white woman by any chance?
If those 15 organizations and no one answered then THOSE organizations are to blame. They received MILLIONS of dollars to provide support. If millions of dollars doesn’t constitute “adequate support” then those organizations should NOT be operating. Despicable.
If she didn’t get fired for insubordination I wonder what she did get fired for. There are many laws in this country and you must know that someone can’t be fired without just cause.
Providing after support is the procedure at the NI? Then why is she complaining that there was no support if that was part of her job? Why complain about having counsel families if that was her job (it’s not by the way. She is not a social worker, and she should be investigated for counselling families)
I don’t think you understand what trauma-centered work entails.
I know in Thunder Bay the Ontario Native Women’s Association received nearly a million dollars to provide “support” to families; I would imagine the government funded other groups in different locations to deliver these services? As I suspected, a quick search shows the federal government provided millions of $ support to various FN organizations in Manitoba http://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/fund-fina/cj-jp/fund-fond/mmiw-fada/info.html
Gabriel would not be able to refer individuals for professional help if she isn’t a social worker. I am troubled by her admitting she was on the telephone with families, whom she describes experiencing “grief” for hours. That is completely inappropriate and beyond the scope of her position. It makes me wonder why she was fired from her position; appears she doesn’t understand what a community liason officer does.
She sent commissioners a document outlining 17 ways she believes they could improve? If anyone did this to the CEO of their organization they would be fired for insubordination as well.
I just tried to contact all 15 numbers of the FN organisations listed on that website. Guess what only TWO people answered, and one territory does not have a number. How would someone in a crisis be able to garner any support with a system as such. it’s no wonder they called her directly, it was probably the only number provided to them and, at least she answered.
Also, providing follow-ups by telephone is part of the procedure at the NI, so she’s only admitting to doing her job.
Your last statement is not true, had she been operating within a healthy environment, which clearly is not the case, the Commissioners would honour her suggestions and speak with her about her concerns, She is a family member/survivor afterall.
The link you provide has nothing to do with the issues raised in this article. That link is about helping families access information about their missing or murdered loved one–accessing police files & investigation info, child welfare, social services or other organizations that may have info on the case & investigation. NOTHING to do with support, grief counselling or any followup for grieving & distraught family members.
It appears to me that employees working directly with the families on followup were not provided sufficient guidance or resources to actually help the families. I say this because the article clearly states it. But then when employees made suggestions to fix problems they encountered, they were not listened to by their superiors. Which means the terrible situation continued, & the families suffered. This is explained in detail in the article.
Also, I disagree that Gabriel was out of line emailing recommendations–many of which were from families–to the commissioners. I would argue that’s actually her job–to ensure that the Inquiry is as responsive to families as it claims it wants to be. “Trauma-centred” means listening to survivors & loved ones of missing & murdered women. Which is exactly what Gabriel was trying to do, & which seems, inexplicably, to have resulting in her being fired.
The link I provided says that the organizations will work with the families to find them support. If you’re too lazy to do your own work and read an article I’m certainly not going to do it for you. Are you a white woman by any chance?
If those 15 organizations and no one answered then THOSE organizations are to blame. They received MILLIONS of dollars to provide support. If millions of dollars doesn’t constitute “adequate support” then those organizations should NOT be operating. Despicable.
If she didn’t get fired for insubordination I wonder what she did get fired for. There are many laws in this country and you must know that someone can’t be fired without just cause.
Providing after support is the procedure at the NI? Then why is she complaining that there was no support if that was part of her job? Why complain about having counsel families if that was her job (it’s not by the way. She is not a social worker, and she should be investigated for counselling families)
I don’t think you understand what trauma-centered work entails.